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	<title>Comments on: Proud Spammer of Open University Courses</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JIm</title>
		<link>http://jimgroom.umwblogs.org/2008/02/17/proud-spammer-of-open-university-courses/#comment-934</link>
		<dc:creator>JIm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I have to catch up on comments, Tony, I am going to respond in earnest to you shiortly, but I have to put together at least a couple of hours to do so and make progress :0 As for the step-by-step, that will hopefully be part of the regrouping.  What a great weekend of stuff, and I can;t thank you enough, Tony, for pushing me to experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=edf2b28090c433379f768f27218b9ba5&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Wow, I have to catch up on comments, Tony, I am going to respond in earnest to you shiortly, but I have to put together at least a couple of hours to do so and make progress :0 As for the step-by-step, that will hopefully be part of the regrouping.  What a great weekend of stuff, and I can;t thank you enough, Tony, for pushing me to experiment.
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		<title>By: 5tein</title>
		<link>http://jimgroom.umwblogs.org/2008/02/17/proud-spammer-of-open-university-courses/#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>5tein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Write us a step-by-step!</description>
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		<title>By: Tony Hirst</title>
		<link>http://jimgroom.umwblogs.org/2008/02/17/proud-spammer-of-open-university-courses/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS the next step is a slightly trickier one - how do we do something similar with OER OPML feeds, like the MIT one, or these Yale ones ( http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/012487.html )?

How do those OPML feeds need tidying/processing to make them palatable via blog?

And how do we persuade the OER funders that letting people get away with publishing PDFs shouldn't really count, unless they provide a web native embeddable viewer (Flash is ok, I guess...) cf. services like scribd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=ee2fe20dbe2f58c821a131afa901d501&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />PS the next step is a slightly trickier one - how do we do something similar with OER OPML feeds, like the MIT one, or these Yale ones ( <a href="http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/012487.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/012487.html</a> )?</p>
<p>How do those OPML feeds need tidying/processing to make them palatable via blog?</p>
<p>And how do we persuade the OER funders that letting people get away with publishing PDFs shouldn&#8217;t really count, unless they provide a web native embeddable viewer (Flash is ok, I guess&#8230;) cf. services like scribd?
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		<title>By: Tony Hirst</title>
		<link>http://jimgroom.umwblogs.org/2008/02/17/proud-spammer-of-open-university-courses/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim -

Great stuff on republishing the OpenLearn materials in a blog. Do you have a feeling for how easy it would be to automate the process and republish all the OpenLearn courses? Also - should each course have its own blog, category, or tag?

I guess now we can start thinking properly about what a blog environment typically affords compared to something like Moodle/blackboard, or a wiki.

(The library folks are faced with a similar situation too - e.g. WPopac - a library catologue delivered via wordpress: http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/11133 )

One thing for me is the need to support 'serialised' RSS feeds, so a user can subscribe at any time and then get 1 post per day, or according to whatever schedule they want (e.g. http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010489.html or http://www.dailylit.com/ ; feedlearner.com offers a daily feed fro Openlearn courses via a Yahoo Pipe mashup)

One thing I like about the 'just do it' approach is that it makes evident the sorts of issues that need to be addressed in a practical way that are all too easily the subject of never-ending 'should we do this or that' conversations that don't ever get resolved. Adding just a single OpenLearn movie to Youtube ( http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/009148.html ) raised all sorts of questions about what rights and description info we needed to make easily available so people could just grab it and reuse it....

...same with importing the feeds into a blog; with just a little bit of clear thinking, the OpenLearn team could probably tweak the original feed generating template so that a rights statement appears in an appropriate (and non-threatening) way in the feed.

Anyway - great stuff; if our paths ever cross, the first round's on me:-)

PS you have an anchor tag typo in your post...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=ee2fe20dbe2f58c821a131afa901d501&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Hi Jim -</p>
<p>Great stuff on republishing the OpenLearn materials in a blog. Do you have a feeling for how easy it would be to automate the process and republish all the OpenLearn courses? Also - should each course have its own blog, category, or tag?</p>
<p>I guess now we can start thinking properly about what a blog environment typically affords compared to something like Moodle/blackboard, or a wiki.</p>
<p>(The library folks are faced with a similar situation too - e.g. WPopac - a library catologue delivered via wordpress: <a href="http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/11133" rel="nofollow">http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/11133</a> )</p>
<p>One thing for me is the need to support &#8217;serialised&#8217; RSS feeds, so a user can subscribe at any time and then get 1 post per day, or according to whatever schedule they want (e.g. <a href="http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010489.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010489.html</a> or <a href="http://www.dailylit.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailylit.com/</a> ;&nbsp;<a href="http://feedlearner.com" title="http://feedlearner. " target="_blank">feedlearner.com</a> offers a daily feed fro Openlearn courses via a Yahoo Pipe mashup)</p>
<p>One thing I like about the &#8216;just do it&#8217; approach is that it makes evident the sorts of issues that need to be addressed in a practical way that are all too easily the subject of never-ending &#8217;should we do this or that&#8217; conversations that don&#8217;t ever get resolved. Adding just a single OpenLearn movie to Youtube ( <a href="http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/009148.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/009148.html</a> ) raised all sorts of questions about what rights and description info we needed to make easily available so people could just grab it and reuse it&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;same with importing the feeds into a blog; with just a little bit of clear thinking, the OpenLearn team could probably tweak the original feed generating template so that a rights statement appears in an appropriate (and non-threatening) way in the feed.</p>
<p>Anyway - great stuff; if our paths ever cross, the first round&#8217;s on me:-)</p>
<p>PS you have an anchor tag typo in your post&#8230;
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